Carly Simon Reveals Exclusive Details About Upcoming Biopic, Startling Theory About Why She Was Long Snubbed By Rock Hall

Carly Simon in 1985. (Picture

Carly Simon in 1985. (Photo: Brownie Harris/Corbis via Getty Images)

The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Class of 2022 was announced Wednesdayand among the inductees were several first-time nominees, including Carly Simon, who has been eligible since 1996. Shortly after hearing this exciting and long-awaited news, she spoke to Yahoo Entertainment/SiriusXM volume – and incredibly, the legendary singer-songwriter, who won the Best New Artist Grammy in 1972 and an Oscar in 1989, seemed surprised to receive this special honour. She even came up with an intriguing theory, tied to her appearance in the 1985 John Travolta/Jamie Lee Curtis movie about the fitness craze. Perfectwhich could have alienated longtime Hall speaker Jann Wenner and kept him in front of the Hall for a quarter of a century.

But now Simon is finally stepping into the Rock Hall, and she’ll soon be portrayed onscreen in another way — and she might even add another Oscar to her mantle. Here, she exclusively reveals that a biopic, based in part on her 2015 memoir Boys in the trees, is in the works, with the expectation that it will be released in about a year. Read on for more details on this; about her first meeting with new Rock Hall president John Sykes, who she says is one of the first women to perform on MTV; and what exactly happened with Wenner on the Perfect Position.

Yahoo Entertainment: Congratulations on finally making it into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame! There are six women inductees this year, which is an all-time high for Rock Hall. You are inducted alongside Pat Benatar, Eurythmics with Annie Lennox, Dolly Parton, Elizabeth Cotten and Sylvia Robinson. So this is a very special year for you.

Carly Simon: Wow, I didn’t even know about Elizabeth Cotten. I remember trying to play a guitar part that Elizabeth Cotten played on one of her records. I don’t even know if it was a guitar; it could have been one of those old-fashioned instruments. … It’s so far.

Another connection is the first two female solo artists ever to perform on MTV 00 on the first day of broadcast, August 1, 1981 were Pat Benatar and you.

We were the first, isn’t it amazing? Do you know how I did? I brazenly walked up to the 39th floor of MTV, and there was this really handsome guy. And I said, “Well, he must be the person to see.” And so, I walked into his office and it was [MTV co-founder and current Hall of Fame chairman] John Sykes. And I sat down and didn’t even tell him I was a singer. I guess he knew he could have known…

He could have, yes.

So there was a fire alarm and [MTV’s CEO] Bob Pittman came running down the hall and said to John, “Quick, we have to get out of here!” So I ran downstairs, down 39 steps or something to the bottom floor, with the band under my arm. John got back in the elevator, and I took a cab home, but I gave the tape to John – it was the “Vengeance” video. Then he called me and I invited him for coffee or something, and we met, and he was so adorable. I can’t believe I forgot he played there on the first day!

Another connection I’ve noticed is that the Class of 2022 has two James Bond theme singers: you, with “Nobody Does It Better” by The Spy Who Loved Me, and “A View to a Kill” by Duran Duran. I feel like there was some sort of All-Star Bond-themed jam at the induction ceremony.

What an interesting idea. But I don’t think “Nobody Does It Better” would be a good song for a large group of people. It’s so personal. It’s so intimate. … You know, I dreamed last night that I was going to the White House when George W. Bush was president and he showed me his daughter’s rooms, which were right next to each other , then at night I sang “Nobody Does It’s Better” for the whole dinner audience at the White House and the microphone wasn’t on. And so it was terrible! And my voice was really hoarse and I couldn’t really be heard. And Laura Bush came up to me afterwards and was like, ‘You know, I really liked the soft parts.’ And I was so relieved. I knew she was probably lying, because she probably couldn’t hear me, but what a good dream! And then you mention this song today! I salute my friends, Carole Bayer Sager and Marvin Hamlisch, for writing this song and for letting me to see her.

You did a fantastic job with it. Are are you going to perform at the Rock Hall ceremony on November 5th?

I only play in closets. No, it’s not in the boxes. I could sing with someone else or something. … But this is all so new. It’s like asking a baby if he’s going to college! I just have to breathe in and out and be very happy with myself today. I just discovered. I mean, when I got nominated, I thought, “Well, that’s for other people. Really, winning is for other people. I did not expect to be part of this crowd.

I am shocked you would think so. You literally won an Oscar and five Grammys. How can you be surprised to be inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame?

Because I had walked past so many times. [Rock & Roll Hall of Fame co-founder/former Hall chairman and Rolling Stone magnate] Jann Wenner, I thought, was a friend of mine. And it was getting more and more awkward every time I met him.

Really? What was going on there exactly?

Well I put the blame on the fact that Jann and I were both in the same scene in a movie with John Travolta called Perfect. And I had to throw a drink in John Travolta’s face, and it was a Bloody Mary. And then it was supposed to be followed by a line that Jann Wenner was delivering, and Jann missed his line every time. So John had to go back and change his white shirt several times, so we had to redo it. And I think Jann might have been embarrassed about that. People have arranged their attitudes according to many things. And sometimes it’s just something they may have done that embarrassed them.

Seems like a weird reason to hold grudges and not let someone so deserving into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. But obviously you and John Sykes, who is now the Hall Speaker, are more sympathetic, going back to the days of MTV.

Sykes was also my manager for a while. He succeeded Tommy Mottola at Champion Entertainment. … so we got to know each other very well. We were actually talking about this the other day when he called me, “Do you remember when I had to physically put you on the plane to go to Los Angeles, because you were nominated for an Oscar? [for “Let the River Run” from Working Girl]He must have convinced someone, a superior, to get a private plane to fly me. Because I think private planes just lost their chic back then, where they became like fur, you know Fur and eggs.

Musician Carly Simon attends the 61st Academy Awards on March 29, 1989 at the Shrine Auditorium in Los Angeles, California.  (Photo by Ron Galella, Ltd./Ron Galella Collection via Getty Images)

Carly Simon attends the 61st Annual Academy Awards on March 29, 1989 in Los Angeles. (Photo: Ron Galella, Ltd./Ron Galella Collection via Getty Images)

Well, since we’re talking about movies, I know you wrote two memoirs. Have we ever talked about doing a biopic on Carly Simon?

Oh, yes, yes. Absolutely. I’m not supposed to talk about it. So I’ll just say yes.

Oh. Can you at least give us a date when we might see this on screen?

Well, hopefully in about a year.

Who will play you? Or who would you like to play you?

Would like to you like to do it?

Um sure! But I can’t sing.

Do you see someone like me?

I think it has to be someone who can sing and act, not just lip-syncing. Someone who is a double or triple threat. I think Miley Cyrus might be good for that.

Someone else suggested it too. I think what the directors plan to do is use a combination of my voice and someone else’s voice – so you’d get an amalgamation of two voices. And somewhere in there, it would sound like me.

I’m super excited about this. But back to the Hall of Fame ceremony, I know you said talking about it is like a baby talking about college, but did you think about who might induct you into the November ceremony ?

Well, since I looked at the list of people who have been inducted over the years, and there are quite a few gentlemen: Sir Paul McCartney, Sir Mick Jagger, Sir Rod Stewart, Sir Ringo Starr. Is there ladies?

You mean like a great lady?

Yeah. There has been no one comparable in the ladies’ department. … Maybe Camilla Parker Bowles would.

Well, it would be a Rock & Roll Hall of Fame first, I must say.

The above interview is taken from Carly Simon’s appearance on the SiriusXM show “Volume West.” The full audio of this conversation is available on the SiriusXM app.

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